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GEORGE STONEY: You recognize the main street -
BRUCE GRAHAM: (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: - there? Let me take it out of this sleeve and -
GRAHAM: And, yeah, I - yeah, yeah.
GEORGE STONEY: Can you see it all right?
GRAHAM: Mm-hmm. (inaudible)
GRAHAM: [See, that's down in?] Gastonia.
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah, uh-huh. Let's see, we got another picture, here. Here,
uh, these are Labor Day parades in Gastonia in 1934.THELMA MASSEY: Yeah, (inaudible)
GRAHAM: [And then the?] - turn back that there.
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
GRAHAM: Thank you. What's - where [that - here?]. Ain't that (inaudible)
00:01:00[look, that face?] -MASSEY: No.
GRAHAM: Huh?
MASSEY: No.
GRAHAM: That's in Gastonia.
GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm.
MASSEY: [That's still not Mr. Massey?] -
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
MASSEY: - [the?] -
GRAHAM: I'm - I'm, uh - I'm -
MASSEY: [No?].
GRAHAM: Uh, that's in Gastonia.
MASSEY: Mm-hmm. No, that's not him. (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: Uh, let's see, it - United Textile Workers, see, there - and
here, they - all outside the mill.GRAHAM: My, oh, my, oh, and you're [leaving me?] some mail.
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
MASSEY: [Might be a?] (inaudible) might not (inaudible)
GRAHAM: Huh?
MASSEY: (inaudible)
GRAHAM: See that? What do you got in there?
MASSEY: [I'm gonna look?] (inaudible)
GRAHAM: Going to -
F2: (inaudible) did you get the paper this morning?
GRAHAM: No, get the paper, [Nanny?].
F2: [OK?].
00:02:00GEORGE STONEY: And this is Albert [Hanson?]. He was from [Smyes?]. He's up
making a speech at the strike. And there's a whole bunch of them in the - the city park.GRAHAM: Yeah (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: That's a - you had -
GRAHAM: [Well, where's that at?]?
GEORGE STONEY: That's in a municipal park in Gastonia.
GRAHAM: Oh.
GEORGE STONEY: Um, Labor Day, Sept- er, first - Labor Day in September, 1934.
That's just when the strike started. So, there were just thousands and thousands of people out. There's some more of them.GRAHAM: They're from Gastonia?
00:03:00GEORGE STONEY: They're from Gastonia, yeah. These girls are from Gastonia.
GRAHAM: (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
GRAHAM: [She's?] -
GEORGE STONEY: Textile workers get ready. (laughter) Yeah. We're trying to
find these three women now. This is up at Belmont. Remember, when they - when they bayoneted that, uh, striker up in Belmont?GRAHAM: Mmm.
GEORGE STONEY: And this is in Charlotte, the big meeting -
MASSEY: Did you get the paper?
GEORGE STONEY: The big meeting before the -
MASSEY: [Did she get?] -
GRAHAM: [She get?] the paper?
00:04:00F3: Oh, I see it, [by the safety tie?].
GRAHAM: (laughs) You know, go down [there?] - oh, you got on something on your
feet. I thought you was barefoot.MASSEY: [I don't know, I don't?] -
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(pause; laughter)
MASSEY: [Oh, as they?] telephone (inaudible) [that's my?] - (phone rings)
GEORGE STONEY: [Hey?], how we doing? Jamie?
MASSEY: (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: OK.
MASSEY: (inaudible)
00:05:00(pause)
JAMIE STONEY: [Something's going on?] (inaudible) (pause) It's on a nice two shot.
GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm.
JUDITH HELFAND: That was nice, [going in - the pictures?].
GEORGE STONEY: OK, can you hear me, Judy?
HELFAND: Mm-hmm.
GEORGE STONEY: OK. Let me show you some of these pictures, [then?]. This -
these two women came down to the food line that the union was running in Gastonia, and we found this woman, here.GRAHAM: Mmm.
00:06:00GEORGE STONEY: And this is the big Labor Day parade in Gastonia. You recognize
Main Street?GRAHAM: Mm-hmm, yeah.
GEORGE STONEY: You think you recognize any of the people?
GRAHAM: No, mm-mm. No, I don't.
GEORGE STONEY: It's a long time ago. And here's another Labor Day parade in
Gastonia. People from Ranlo.GRAHAM: Mm-hmm.
GEORGE STONEY: Did you know folks from Ranlo?
GRAHAM: No.
GEORGE STONEY: Uh-huh.
00:07:00GRAHAM: I don't believe I've been in Ranlo - two or three times. (laughs)
GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm. And here's a big meeting, uh, one of the big union
leaders named Albert Henson is up talking to the people.GRAHAM: Where that at?
GEORGE STONEY: Right - this is in front of the, um, Parkdale Mill. Parkdale, in Gastonia.
GRAHAM: Mm-hmm.
GEORGE STONEY: OK?
JAMIE STONEY: [So?], one more.
HELFAND: Yeah.
GEORGE STONEY: OK, all right. This is a - a big crowd of folks that came to the
municipal park after that big Labor Day parade. Looks like -GRAHAM: That's in Gastonia.
00:08:00GEORGE STONEY: Gastonia. Did you know that all of that was going on then?
GRAHAM: If I do, I done forgot it.
GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm. Well, the next day, they shut down, at the Eagle. And,
uh, I think were down for how long? How long were they out?GRAHAM: I done forgot it.
GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm. That's some more of them fellas at the gate.
HELFAND: I wonder what Mr. Graham thinks about seeing all those people in those pictures?
GEORGE STONEY: Um, does this bring back any memories to you?
MASSEY: (inaudible)
00:09:00GRAHAM: That's in Gastonia.
GEORGE STONEY: That's right.
MASSEY: [Who's that?]?
F1: Mom.
MASSEY: [Oh, yeah?].
GEORGE STONEY: Do you remember going to any parades?
GRAHAM: No, I never did go [to that?].
MASSEY: (inaudible) [he was at?] (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm.
F1: [Mom?].
MASSEY: Oh, [you've - go ahead and make a call for?] (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: OK, I think that -
HELFAND: OK, Jamie -
JAMIE STONEY: I'm going to go get (inaudible)
HELFAND: - let's take a still of the -
JAMIE STONEY: - meter's not working.
HELFAND: - [my?] - yeah.
JAMIE STONEY: [I'm an oddball?]. Let me just adjust [camera?].
GEORGE STONEY: OK.
JAMIE STONEY: [Just?] turn the camera off (inaudible)
HELFAND: Sure.
GEORGE STONEY: No, I think it's - it can go off.
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GRAHAM: Uh, (inaudible) [get that from?]?
HELFAND: [What do you think I?] -
GEORGE STONEY: (inaudible)
GRAHAM: (inaudible)
00:23:00JAMIE STONEY: [Those are the washed out - so you're saying?] that they put the
stuff in -GRAHAM: Uh, (inaudible)
HELFAND: Oh, you know what? [I think that we can?] (inaudible) [the mill?] -
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JAMIE STONEY: What, the plane?
HELFAND: No. [OK?].
GEORGE STONEY: All right.
00:24:00(pause)
JAMIE STONEY: [No, but I pull?] -
GEORGE STONEY: (inaudible)
(pause)
GEORGE STONEY: (inaudible)
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HELFAND: OK.
(break in audio)
00:26:00JAMIE STONEY: (laughs) American Gothic. (laughter)
HELFAND: You in tight on him.
JAMIE STONEY: Yeah, [do you want to move?]? (laughs)
HELFAND: Nah.
GEORGE STONEY: [Should be?] (inaudible) [the other tape?]. I'm rolling.
HELFAND: Hey, George.
JAMIE STONEY: [Here, give them to me, I'm just going to go down?] -
HELFAND: Yeah.
JAMIE STONEY: (inaudible)
HELFAND: We should get George out of the way so you can get into the house,
right? Pan from the mailbox to the house.JAMIE STONEY: [Yeah, but?] -
HELFAND: Get a still on the mailbox with his name on it, and then -
00:27:00JAMIE STONEY: (inaudible)
M1: (inaudible)
F1: (inaudible)
(pause)
GEORGE STONEY: [Start on the?] - yeah, [hold it up a little more, a little
more?] -JAMIE STONEY: Yeah.
GEORGE STONEY: - [if you need to. Yeah, good?].
00:28:00JAMIE STONEY: (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: OK, I think [we're good?].
JAMIE STONEY: Yeah, [we're good?].
GEORGE STONEY: Getting the -
JAMIE STONEY: I just wanted to get one shot here.
GEORGE STONEY: OK.
HELFAND: Hmm, you know what? Before you move -
JAMIE STONEY: What?
HELFAND: [Do we have?] - (break in audio) - wide angle adapter [in it?]?
JAMIE STONEY: No, I'm doing nature.
HELFAND: OK, OK.
JAMIE STONEY: A David Attenborough kind of thing.
00:29:00(pause)
HELFAND: [Go get your dad - oh?] -
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GEORGE STONEY: - [the?] - to do some photography -
M1: Oh, yeah?
GEORGE STONEY: - on the Eagle reunion.
M1: Well, I'm here to see how many people I recognize. (laughter)
GEORGE STONEY: When did you leave the Eagle?
M1: Thirty years ago, 32 years ago.
00:35:00GEORGE STONEY: I know what you feel like, [that?] -
M1: Well, do you?
GEORGE STONEY: Well, it's like going to a high school reunion, isn't it?
M1: Yes, it is.
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
M1: Very much like going -
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
M1: - to a high school reunion.
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah, yeah.
M1: It's a - but I'm looking for faces.
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah. But is this group over here from the Eagle, do you think?
M1: I think we'll find out soon enough -
GEORGE STONEY: OK, yeah.
M1: - [anyway?].
GEORGE STONEY: We'll just go over there and - Jamie, let's go over there and see.
JAMIE STONEY: Sure, um -
GEORGE STONEY: OK?
JAMIE STONEY: - [do we think?] -
GEORGE STONEY: [Betty Henson, uh?] (inaudible)
M1: Debbie Henson? Not Debbie Henson.
GEORGE STONEY: Betty Henson.
M1: Betty Henson.
GEORGE STONEY: Did you know her?
M1: Uh, her - her - she was Floyd Miller's daughter.
GEORGE STONEY: Yes, that's right, yeah.
M1: Yeah.
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah. Is this - some of this Eagle - (break in audio) [OK, now?] -
F5: All in the same family. (laughter)
GEORGE STONEY: You're kidding?
F5: No, I'm not! (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: What family's that?
F5: The Hill family.
GEORGE STONEY: The Hill family. (laughter) Well, what we're doing - we're
making a film about textiles in the early '30s. 00:36:00F5: Right.
GEORGE STONEY: And, uh, lot of places are having these reunions now, so we
thought we'd come over and see what it looked like.F5: I think we might be one of the largest families that was raised at the Eagle.
M2: We was the largest.
M1: Was?
F5: Was?
GEORGE STONEY: Well -
F5: Was, OK, was. (laughter)
GEORGE STONEY: OK.
F5: [Yeah, we did, yeah?].
GEORGE STONEY: Let's get a good shot of the Hills. (laughter) [My gosh?].
M2: [Oh, they could be here?] -
F5: [Yeah?] (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: Well, do you (overlapping dialogue; inaudible) you either must
have worked as child laborers or something.F5: (inaudible) our mother (inaudible) [yeah?] -
M1: No, they all - all of 'em - most of these women, here -
F6: I did.
F5: [Yeah, did you?]?
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
M1: [We?] did. Elsie -
F5: [Did you?] -
F6: And Daniel did.
M1: And Daniel.
M2: [Now, I wasn't?] -
(overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
M1: Uh, Dean, David -
F6: David.
F7: [David, here?] -
M1: Peggy? Peggy, did you ever work at the Eagle?
F7: Yeah (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
M1: Yeah? Shirley? You didn't, did you?
F5: No.
F6: I didn't either (overlapping dialogue; inaudible) yeah.
F7: [Virginia?] -
F5: I never [was?] (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
M2: Yeah, [I?] (inaudible) every three hours. (laughter) (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
F5: - [our activity?] today.
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
F5: [Yeah?]? (laughter)
00:37:00F6: [Yeah, but he won't?] - we all worked [with?] (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
M1: I worked there for about -
F5: You [were, too?]?
M1: - [four?] years, yeah.
F5: I'll be darned.
M1: (inaudible)
F6: I don't know how many years I worked there. A long time (overlapping
dialogue; inaudible) [we?] all did.M1: No, Shirley didn't, [not Candice?].
GEORGE STONEY: No?
F6: [So, just?] - and you - you did, too?
F5: [Yeah, I worked there?] (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
F6: I worked there 15 years.
F7: I know Shirley [did?] (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: What do you think, uh, started all this, getting together like this?
M1: Well, Roger Wince, so - Four Square Minster did.
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
M1: He started it. We started with a bunch of guys getting together. And then
they said, "Well, let's include the families."GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
M1: So, uh, everybody started bringing their families to it. So, now it's up
- last year, I think it had 170-something -F7: [It's 170?].
M1: - people here.
F7: Yes.
M3: (inaudible)
M1: I haven't been here for three years.
F7: [I can't - I can't?] -
M1: The last time I was here was in '89.
F7: Yeah.
M1: So, yeah, we're all brother and sister and sister-in-laws and nieces,
nephews, and, um - 00:38:00F7: Yeah (inaudible)
M1: Mom and Dad -
F7: - [they?] -
M3: And brother-in-law.
F7: - they - they came all the way from Naples, Florida.
F6: Yeah, they did, [thanks for coming?].
F7: And she did, too. (laughter) She came -
F6: They're [brother and sister?] (inaudible)
F7: - they did, they did.
F5: Yep.
M2: Yeah.
F7: Grace did.
M2: (inaudible)
F7: She's from Naples.
GEORGE STONEY: Well, we've been over at the Eagle, doing some pictures of the
- of the old village.F5: Yeah.
M1: [So, we're down?] -
GEORGE STONEY: And -
M1: Mom and Dad [lived?] in the same house. It was tore down (inaudible) they
moved in it new when they lived there, so they moved out and they tore it down when they moved out, [so that?] -GEORGE STONEY: Fellow named Michaels took us over there and took us down to the
spring where the people used to bathe and -M1: [Jane Lynch?].
F7: Yeah.
F5: Oh, yeah.
GEORGE STONEY: Remember that?
F7: Yeah.
M1: Jane - it was Jane's house, yeah.
F7: Yeah.
F5: Yeah.
F7: Oh, yeah.
M1: Had the - they still got that cement block [over?] -
GEORGE STONEY: We - you know, we could - finally couldn't find the spring. We
went down the hill -M1: Yeah.
GEORGE STONEY: - and I fell down [or something like that?]. (laughter)
M1: Well, they had - used to have a cement, uh, cover [there?].
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
F7: Oh, yeah.
F6: [Here's some more?]
F7: Oh, yeah.
F6: - from the Eagle. They -
F7: Yeah.
F6: - they worked there years before I ever did.
F5: Yeah.
F7: Uh-huh.
M1: Here's a bunch more, yeah.
00:39:00GEORGE STONEY: Ah, we've met this guy before. (laughter)
F7: Yeah. (laughter)
M3: How you doing?
GEORGE STONEY: I knew you'd come. It's great to see - hello. It's good
to see you again.M3: That's my son over yonder, and daughter.
GEORGE STONEY: Uh-huh. (laughter) Well, we're getting ready to [film?] inside.
M3: Yeah?
GEORGE STONEY: We've been talking to some other people who told us a - a lot
of stories, very similar to the ones you did.M3: Yeah, yeah.
GEORGE STONEY: We were out -
M3: Ha! (laughter)
GEORGE STONEY: You remember her?
M3: Oh, yeah, I remember. (laughs)
GEORGE STONEY: We were out with Bruce Graham this morning.
M3: Yeah.
GEORGE STONEY: And he was telling us about, uh, his times in the mill.
M3: Yeah.
GEORGE STONEY: I'm sure you remember him.
M3: Yeah, I remember Bruce, yeah.
00:40:00GEORGE STONEY: Yeah, OK. Well, it was good to see you again.
HELFAND: (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: OK, ['cause we were just near?] - that's where we're going
to have a problem. If we follow -HELFAND: (inaudible) [Dad?] -
GEORGE STONEY: Yep.
HELFAND: [Just take a?] (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: Wonder who's going to be the oldest person here?
F8: (inaudible) [I don't know?] (inaudible)
JAMIE STONEY: (inaudible)
F8: [I don't know, but?] we won't be the oldest.
GEORGE STONEY: You won't be the oldest?
F8: No (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
F8: - [right over there?].
GEORGE STONEY: [That's the secret?].
F8: Mm. [What are they doing?]?
00:41:00(pause)
M4: (inaudible) [here?]?
GEORGE STONEY: No, go on down.
M4: Oh, there?
GEORGE STONEY: Or, wait a minute, no -
JAMIE STONEY: [No?], it's this door, right here.
GEORGE STONEY: Right here?
JAMIE STONEY: Yeah.
GEORGE STONEY: It's right in the back. It's around that way.
M4: [Right?] around?
00:42:00GEORGE STONEY: Yes, that's it. (multiple conversations; inaudible) Yeah, and
they - they've got tables back there.F8: (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah, there - this is the Eagle?
F9: Eagle? Yeah.
GEORGE STONEY: OK.
F10: Glad to have y'all with us tonight.
F11: Yeah. (laughs) [I'm thankfully?] -
GEORGE STONEY: (inaudible)
F11: - glad to be here.
F9: Well, good! I hope you are!
F11: Yeah. (laughs)
(laughter)
GEORGE STONEY: [We?] - (multiple conversations; inaudible)
F5: [Great?]!
GEORGE STONEY: [We've already been getting some?] people outside.
F5: Yeah, [I would hope?].
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah (inaudible)
F5: [No?], my brother that I didn't know I had.
GEORGE STONEY: Really? Oh, yes. (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
00:43:00F9: Oh! Excuse me. (multiple conversations; inaudible) Yeah, this is Mr. [Stoney?].
GEORGE STONEY: Hello.
JAMIE STONEY: Mr. Stoney, glad to meet (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
F9: Larry - Larry [Stephens?].
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah,[all right?].
F7: Oh, here's Albert [Beale?].
GEORGE STONEY: Yes.
F7: How 'bout that?
GEORGE STONEY: [We're?] talking with him outside. Hello.
M4: How you doing, [here?]?
GEORGE STONEY: It's good to see you.
M4: Good to see you.
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
M4: [It's been a good?] -
GEORGE STONEY: Hello.
M4: - uh, about a year, maybe. (laughs)
GEORGE STONEY: That's right. (laughs)
HELFAND: Right.
F7: You staying (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
F5: [I expect I - uh, we're?] - (multiple conversations; inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: The ladies on the right, inside, are looking at old pictures.
M5: [So, my?] - hello!
M4: [Hello?].
M5: How you doing tonight? Good to see you folks.
M4: Good to see you.
M5: You all come on in and get you a seat. How you doing?
HELFAND: (inaudible)
M5: Good to see you.
HELFAND: (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: Yes, [that is?] -
HELFAND: (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah. The Hills.
HELFAND: Uh-huh.
M5: Come right on in the house. (multiple conversations; inaudible) Hello,
00:44:00there! Good to see you. (multiple conversations; inaudible)F5: Mr. Stoney.
M5: [Well, there?] -
F5: This is Mary Francis, that worked for General Motors.
GEORGE STONEY: Oh, very pleased to see you.
F5: [She wants to?] meet you.
F10: Nice to see you.
M5: [Well, they're?] -
GEORGE STONEY: I guess, uh -
F10: Welcome to [town?].
GEORGE STONEY: Thank you. I guess -
F5: (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: - Betty's told you what we're doing?
F10: Yes.
GEORGE STONEY: Good, good.
F10: [Gonna get?] (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: Good, thank you, yeah. Jamie, I'm going to -
M5: There you are!
GEORGE STONEY: - go outside for a moment. [Do you?] - over there with the
ladies who -JAMIE STONEY: OK, yeah, [can you?] grab -
GEORGE STONEY: - are looking at the pictures.
JAMIE STONEY: - the bags and the tripod?
GEORGE STONEY: I will do that, yeah.
M5: [Hey, Aunt Esther?]!
F11: Well, hey, Roger! I spoke to you and you didn't -
M5: I didn't see you.
M4: Oh!
F11: [No, we didn't?] -
M5: Start a family feud, [again?] (laughter)
JAMIE STONEY: [Pan?] (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
M4: - [first ones?]. (laughter)
F10: (inaudible) Roger, how you doing?
M5: [Uh, who'd you see?]?
00:45:00(multiple conversations; inaudible)
F10: She's (inaudible)
M5: Oh. (laughs)
F9: [Now, this is?] (inaudible)
F7: Well, you'd better (inaudible) (laughter) you know Buddy [Steverson?]?
(overlapping dialogue; inaudible) [this is him?]?F11: [That's him?], but it's not (inaudible) (laughter) no, no.
HELFAND: [Changing?] -
F11: [Hi, Sweet?]!
F10: Hey (inaudible)
(multiple conversations; inaudible)
YVONNIE HILL: - little later on. Are we supposed to smile? Or are we supposed
to ignore all of ya's?HELFAND: Why don't you just keep on doing what you're doing?
HILL: Well, we're looking at the old pictures -
F6: [On the?] pictures -
HILL: - [of all - just?] trying to get - identify 'em, 'cause I know this is
back in 19 and - what would you say?F6: Uh, 19 and 30 -
M4: That was made in 1929, I believe.
HILL: Twenty-nine or '30 when that -
M4: Yeah.
HELFAND: When was it made?
HILL: 'Bout 19-
M4: I believe 1929.
HILL: But the - we've identified just about all of 'em.
M4: Yeah, 'cause my mother is on there, and she's 84 now.
HILL: [Yeah?].
M4: And she's right here somewhere.
00:46:00HILL: That's her, right there.
M4: That it? Right there?
F7: Mm-hmm.
M4: OK.
F6: [There she is?].
HILL: But I didn't recognize -
M4: I should've brought my glasses.
HILL: - and so, I didn't recognize her.
M4: I could've helped you a lot more with that.
F6: Well, [I let - we had - the?] - I'll let you borrow mine.
M4: Let me go get Margaret's. (laughter)
F6: Oh, dear.
M4: And I'll try to help you out.
F6: [We?] -
M4: (inaudible)
F6: Yeah.
HILL: No, but (inaudible)
M4: [Here, the?] (inaudible) [two people sleeping?].
F6: I should have brought my camera, [shouldn't I?]?
M4: [They're on their way - and I?] picked out [Irma?] (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
HILL: [I would like?] to meet some of these people around here, but I can't
(overlapping dialogue; inaudible) [I don't know some?] (inaudible)F6: [Well, when you've been?] (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: [Be sure?] to give me this book again.
F12: Listen, I want you - what do you mean?
GEORGE STONEY: Uh, you want to get over here, Jamie?
JAMIE STONEY: Sure.
F12: Oh! Oh.
GEORGE STONEY: Just so - I never seen it before.
F12: Oh, yeah. (laughter) Well, that's a good idea. Now, this is, uh, Robert
Lee Stowe, pioneer in textiles.GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
F12: And it's yours.
GEORGE STONEY: Mine? Well -
F12: Yeah.
00:47:00GEORGE STONEY: - where'd you get it?
F12: Well, I - they gave a lot of us - when it was printed, we - we got them
from the - the Stowe Mill office up there. So, they gave out a lot of them. And I - I sure did enjoy it, and I thought you might -GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm.
F12: - enjoy it, too.
GEORGE STONEY: Well, don't you want to keep it? It's -
F12: Oh, no, I want you to have it. I [won't?] - I don't have anybody down
[to turn?] - you know, so you're welcome to it.GEORGE STONEY: Well, thank you very much.
F12: [So you can?] (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: We'll put it - we'll put it with our archives, with all the
other things we're collecting -F12: Oh, well, great!
GEORGE STONEY: - you see?
F12: Right, [just?] -
GEORGE STONEY: So, that, uh -
F12: And I know - I know you'll appreciate it, mm-hmm.
GEORGE STONEY: I've - I've seen it, but I haven't read it.
F12: Mm-hmm.
GEORGE STONEY: Thank you very much.
F12: Well, you're very welcome.
GEORGE STONEY: OK.
F12: Very welcome.
GEORGE STONEY: I'm going to leave it right here, if I could leave it -
F12: Sure.
GEORGE STONEY: - safe here in this sleeve.
F12: Sure.
GEORGE STONEY: Good, OK?
F12: OK!
GEORGE STONEY: Thank you.
F12: Mm-hmm.
F5: Yeah, I tell you, we was about ready to back out -
M4: (inaudible)
F5: - but we made it! (laughs)
F10: [And?] this is my brother, [Larry?].
GEORGE STONEY: [How are you doing?]?
F5: Oh, is it?
F10: Mm-hmm.
F5: Oh my goodness, hey!
F6: (inaudible) [Laura?].
00:48:00F5: Yes, yes. (overlapping dialogue; inaudible) [Sure did, I'm here in this?] -
M5: [You'll never forget it?] (overlapping dialogue; inaudible) (laughter)
F7: I may - I know it's not. But, you know -
F5: It is, really!
F7: It is?
F5: That's my brother.
F9: [Oh, sure enough is?].
F5: Yeah.
F9: Well, I didn't know you had a brother. All them years, (laughter) and you
didn't say anything?F5: I didn't know him 'til 1989.
F9: [Sure, now?].
F5: Uh-huh.
F9: Oh, my goodness. (overlapping dialogue; inaudible) And that - that's
Wanda. (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)M5: Strange thing is, she named her son the same as me.
F9: Yes?
F5: They're both Larry.
F9: Yes?
M5: Middle name and all, the same.
F9: Oh!
F5: The strange thing, too, is there's four more boys, four more brothers.
[And he's?] (inaudible)F9: (inaudible)
M5: (inaudible) [about that?].
F5: Yeah.
F6: Oh (inaudible)
(multiple conversations; inaudible)
JAMIE STONEY: Anybody else?
GEORGE STONEY: No.
F5: (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: No.
M5: [Is that right?]?
F5: [Doing the Charleston?].
M5: [That's a?] (inaudible) Charleston. (laughter) (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
00:49:00F5: We grew up together, [and Daddy - that's?] - best friends.
M5: [That - right?].
F5: We had good, good [times?].
M5: The other (inaudible) there was telling me about growing up [with her?].
F5: Yeah. [And he'd?] keep us laughing. (laughter)
M5: (inaudible)
F9: Comic. (laughs)
F5: [We did?] some crazy things.
F9: Oh, my.
F13: Excuse me. Oh, now, Betty told me your were coming!
GEORGE STONEY: Hmm? Yeah.
F13: And, uh, so we got here.
GEORGE STONEY: Well, she's been a great help to us, helping us find a lot of
people who remember the early '30s -F13: Mm-hmm.
GEORGE STONEY: - which is what we're interested in.
F13: Yeah. Well -
F9: Well, that's good.
F13: - what did we do? [Waltz?]? Was that what we were doing? (laughter)
"Waltz to the Carolina Moon."M5: [Yeah, there goes?] -
F9: Oh my goodness! (laughs)
GEORGE STONEY: She found an old record.
F9: Did you?
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah. (laughter)
F9: (inaudible) (laughter)
GEORGE STONEY: It was very sweet. F9: Oh!
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah
F9: Yeah, uh -
GEORGE STONEY: And you still had it?
F13: Yeah, I got it.
GEORGE STONEY: [Was it - right?]?
F13: Oh, yeah, I brought it.
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah, mm-hmm.
F9: Yeah, I'll play it for you tonight.
F13: Yeah, I brought my mother and my husband's mother.
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah?
F13: They're - they're old, and I wanted them to come -
GEORGE STONEY: Uh-huh, uh-huh.
F13: - because the - you know, they -
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
00:50:00F13: - they're some of the oldest ones that were on the mill, there.
GEORGE STONEY: Well, maybe you could take us over and - and, uh - just a -
[well?], he's going to get the pictures here, first.F13: Did you know what year this was on this one?
M5: Huh?
F13: Do you know what year this was on the -
M5: No, I don't.
GEORGE STONEY: Oh, those are great ones.
F13: But see, that was in, what -
M5: Well, Big Don -
F13: - 19-
M5: - Big Don Caldwell.
F13: Yeah.
F7: He's trying to film that.
M5: [Paula Steele?].
F13: That has a year on that one, on the back of that one.
M5: There's [Fred Hollyfield?]. That - some of 'em, I - you know.
F13: There's daddy.
F7: Oh, but if he's -
M5: Yeah.
F7: - trying to film this -
F13: And there's mama.
JAMIE STONEY: [Going around?] again, please?
F13: That's - excuse me?
JAMIE STONEY: Could you point your mother out again, please?
F13: Uh, there's my mom, and there's my dad.
M5: Right here is Uncle Tom [London?]. That's - he was just - just
everybody's uncle -F13: [He was?].
M5: - I guess. That's why they called him Uncle Tom. He was a good ol' fella.
GEORGE STONEY: You know what year that was?
M5: Twenty-eight, 1928.
GEORGE STONEY: Uh-huh, 1928, uh-huh, oh.
00:51:00M5: There's my aunt, [Janey?] Caldwell.
GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm.
M5: He was my cousin -
GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm.
M5: - John Caldwell. I don't believe my daddy was on here.
GEORGE STONEY: Is Mr. Michaels on there?
F13: George Michaels.
M5: Uh, gosh, I wouldn't know him. I -
GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm.
M5: I mean, I knew him, but now I wouldn't -
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah, yeah.
M5: - wouldn't recognize him here.
GEORGE STONEY: Sure, yeah.
F13: Isn't this the guy that got killed in, what, World War II? You remember,
uh - I can't remember his name. He lived two doors up from us. I never will forget, we were all sitting on -M5: I remember that, but I can't think of his name, either.
F13: We were all sitting on the front steps, and they had just (inaudible)
(break in audio)
M4: [Hey?]!
M6: [How the hell are you?]?
M4: How you doing, boy? Good to have you both!
M5: (inaudible)
F13: [Yeah?].
M5: (inaudible)
F13: (inaudible)
M5: Yeah, [that's ma. And my own - this?] -
F10: Hello, hon, how are you?
F13: [There's Shawn?].
F6: I'm fine, and you?
F10: We're fine.
F6: [We're?] good. It's always good to see people (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: The name of the fella who wrote that letter -
F13: (inaudible) [speaking?]?
00:52:00F12: (inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: [That's OK?].
F7: [Yeah?].
F13: [Are you?] (inaudible)
F7: Here's [Miss Charity?].
GEORGE STONEY: Did you know a Mr. E.M. Wallace?
M5: Wallace, yeah.
GEORGE STONEY: Uh-huh. Is he on these pictures?
M5: I don't know. I don't know if I'd recognize him, you know, back -
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
M5: When this picture -
F13: Back then.
M5: - was made.
F13: [But Mr. Pliny Mills?] could probably tell you.
M5: That picture was -
F13: Pliny Mills.
GEORGE STONEY: Pliny Mills.
F13: He could probably tell you more -
GEORGE STONEY: Uh-huh.
F13: - about these than anyone.
GEORGE STONEY: Is he coming, you think?
F13: Uh-huh.
M5: That picture was made when I was about -
F7: [Now, Betty could?] -
M5: - well, three years before -
GEORGE STONEY: Uh-huh.
M5: - I was born -
GEORGE STONEY: Uh-huh.
M5: - matter of fact.
F13: Uh, Betty -
JAMIE STONEY: No wonder you don't recognize - (laughter)
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah. (laughs)
M5: (laughter) That's why - I know 'em -
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
M5: - and - and all of 'em -
GEORGE STONEY: Sure.
M5: - nearly, you know.
GEORGE STONEY: What -
F13: There right there is my uncle.
M5: But I don't recognize 'em -
GEORGE STONEY: Uh-huh, this was made -
M5: - all the faces back then.
00:53:00GEORGE STONEY: - in, what, '24? Doesn't have a date on it.
F13: No, this one doesn't have a date. This is the only one - has a date.
GEORGE STONEY: With the '20 on it, uh-huh.
(break in audio)
F9: [Hi, there?]! (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
JAMIE STONEY: Now, we didn't have a camera rolling, no fair.
F7: This is Fred Hollyfield.
M5: There's [Mud, this is?] -
F13: Uncle Tom London, that -
F7: Mm-hmm.
F13: - her - her dad was known as Uncle Tom London.
F7: Everybody knew him as Uncle Tom.
M5: (inaudible)
F6: Yeah, there's [Patsy?] (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
F7: Yeah.
F9: [Janey Caldwell?].
F7: I don't believe Mr. Wallace was on this one.
F13: [Probably with his own?] (inaudible)
M5: I wouldn't - I wouldn't know him if I'd see him, that -
F7: I don't either.
M5: - that -
F7: I don't believe he was, either.
F13: Mm-mm.
F7: But, now Betty's -
F6: (inaudible)
F7: - got a picture of he and Miss Wallace, [Jackie and Bertie?].
GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm.
F7: Mm-hmm.
F13: You could probably (inaudible)
F7: That's (inaudible)
M5: There's Daddy.
F7: That's Joe Hilton.
F6: Yeah, yeah.
F13: Do you think it - that he might be on this one?
M5: Mr. Nicholls (inaudible) Hill.
F6: And here's, uh -
F7: And Sadie.
M5: Dennis [Klonder?] (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
F6: And [Frances Hilton?].
GEORGE STONEY: Hmm.
F7: Yes.
M5: [Arlene Beatty?].
F7: And, uh, that's, uh, [Coot Cherry?], there. No, that's Helen, uh -
M5: [Bruce Villar?].
F7: - that's Helen Nichols.
M5: [Arliss Millen?].
F6: [Is it?]?
F7: Mm-hmm.
M5: [You - you were saying?] -
00:54:00F13: You know about all of 'em, don't you?
M5: Yeah, I know 'em, but -
F6: I remember when [we used to?] (inaudible)
M5: - a lot of faces (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
F6: - uh-huh.
M5: This [young?] (inaudible) [Henson?].
F13: That's Janey (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: [Film?] the other side, [crossing?] their hands, that's pretty nice.
JAMIE STONEY: OK.
M5: [A lot?] - here he is, on the [front?] -
F6: But I don't believe [Candice Wallace?] -
M5: - sitting there -
F6: - was on (overlapping dialogue; inaudible) remember what -
(break in audio)
(overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
F11: You're not [Albert Beale?]!
M6: That is Albert, and I'm Junior. I'm Junior. (laughter)
F11: (inaudible) that's Albert (inaudible) [baseball?] -
F13: And that's Mama. (laughter) [Here's?] - well, this is Janey Caldwell -
F7: (inaudible) Jane and them (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
(multiple conversations; inaudible)
F11: - we want that - those pictures now - Mr. Wallace -
GEORGE STONEY: No, no -
HELFAND: Oh.
GEORGE STONEY: - we'll get them later.
F13: Stoney, Mr. Stoney.
F6: Yeah.
M5: [Rusty Hamilton?].
F6: Yeah.
F7: No.
M5: [Over the?] (inaudible)
F7: And I believe this is -
F13: One guy called me from Atlanta this morning, about 5:30 (overlapping
dialogue; inaudible) he couldn't get here. But this is a program -F7: Yeah, you know, we should do - [and I don't know?] (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
F13: - [where he?] - he was the, uh, [chaplain?] for the Atlanta Braves. They
grew [up on the?] Eagle.GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm.
F13: John Wilson.
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
F13: Reverend John Wilson.
GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm.
F13: And these were the people he married [out there, yeah?].
GEORGE STONEY: Oh, how nice.
F7: Uh-huh.
00:55:00M5: [Miss?] Caldwell.
GEORGE STONEY: That's nice.
JAMIE STONEY: [It's right here?].
M5: That's [Joey Condon?], I believe.
F7: Yeah, sure is.
F6: And this is, uh (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: When you're through here -
F6: [Yeah, John?] -
GEORGE STONEY: - I have another thing -
HELFAND: [We have Georgina?] - we could get them to redo this, but we can't
get all these hellos again.GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm, yeah.
M5: This - this picture, I think, was made in -
F6: [There's Hatfield?].
M5: - maybe (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
GEORGE STONEY: Let's (overlapping dialogue; inaudible)
F13: [That's Hap Wilson?] -
M5: May-
(break in audio)
GEORGE STONEY: Pardon me, ladies.
F15: Yes?
GEORGE STONEY: Could you tell me who these people are and how you knew them?
F15: Who?
HILL: Well, I knew him from his baseball pitching and hitting days, (laughter)
back - way back, years ago. And [his son, I had never met him except with his little teeter tot-tot?]. And I really didn't recognize him 'til he told me who they were. And, uh -GEORGE STONEY: What did you do in the Eagle?
HILL: I did a little bit of everything. I mostly wound and spooled.
GEORGE STONEY: When did you leave?
00:56:00HILL: I left in 19 and '37, I believe. I been there since 1930. Or, no, not
1930, 19- yeah, I guess 1932, I'll say.GEORGE STONEY: So, you - you were there right when it went from 11 hours to
eight hours.HILL: Right, right. I just got married, and - and, uh, it - and we were making
five dollars a week, and they went up to a dollar and hour, and we [still?] - 12 - eight hours a day as - [man, did we?] - we were - thought we were rich! (laughter) We could buy the world. But, uh, that was the good old days.GEORGE STONEY: Yeah, mm-hmm. Were you there when they tried to organize?
F10: Organize what?
HILL: No. The -
GEORGE STONEY: Uh, organize the union there?
HILL: No.
F10: No.
HILL: If I had'a been, I'd have cussed. (laughter)
GEORGE STONEY: You - you'd have cussed. (laughter)
HILL: I don't believe in the union, no way, shape, [face?], nor form. Maybe I
oughtn't not to say that on camera, but they done - it done more damage than 00:57:00it did good in Gaston County, I'll tell you that.GEORGE STONEY: Well, if that's what you believe, that's what you should say.
HILL: Well, do I know you? Or are you with this crew?
GEORGE STONEY: I - I'm with this crew and, uh, I'm with -
F14: I don't know, maybe you's one of the people that worked at the Eagle
and I just hadn't recognized you. (laughter) It seems everybody else here (inaudible)GEORGE STONEY: I'm with - with Betty Henson.
F15: Oh, Betty Henson.
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah, she helped us to come over here.
F15: Oh, that's good.
GEORGE STONEY: Yes.
F15: That's good.
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
F15: Well, I worked at the Eagle, too.
GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm.
F14: Was born at the Eagle.
GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm.
F15: [I worked at?] the Eagle. [I guess?] - when did I fall off that horse? In '76?
HILL: Oh.
GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm.
F15: And I fell off a horse and had to quit.
HILL: (inaudible) [like it is?] today. We were families, then, and we - we were
real close, everybody. You may have not loved everybody or liked everybody's ways, but we still were a family.GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm.
F15: Yeah, if anything happened, they - everybody just pitched in and helped.
F15: All the children, they were just like little - like your children.
GEORGE STONEY: Well, that's what lots of people have been telling us.
F15: Yeah.
GEORGE STONEY: Yeah.
00:58:00HILL: Well, that's the truth of the Eagle Mill.
GEORGE STONEY: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well, thank you.
F15: [You?] -